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[Imap-protocol] RFC7162 (CONDSTORE and QRESYNC)

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From: David Harris <David.Harris@pmail.gen.nz>
To: imap-protocol@u.washington.edu
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2018 12:34:52 -0000
Message-ID: 5382D01E.22246.FAB84F9@David.Harris.pmail.gen.nz permalink / raw / eml / mbox 
I'm just reading through RFC7162 and was wondering if anyone on this list 
would be willing to give a speculative estimate of the percentage of servers 
and clients that support CONDSTORE? I'm only looking for a 
"back-of-the-envelope" estimate here - even something like "more than half" 
or "less than half" would be useful.

I'd also like to offer a short, heartfelt thanks to the people out there like 
Alexey Melnikov and Dave Cridland (representative names only - there are 
many, many more) who put in a lot of time and effort to come out with helpful 
RFCs like this. IMAP is complex and in places very arcane, so all assistance 
is helpful, and I for one appreciate it.

Cheers!

-- David --

------------------ David Harris -+- Pegasus Mail ----------------------
Box 5451, Dunedin, New Zealand | e-mail: David.Harris@pmail.gen.nz
           Phone: +64 3 453-6880 | Fax: +64 3 453-6612

True life insurance claim:
   "My car was legally parked as it backed into the other vehicle."
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From: arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no
To: imap-protocol@localhost
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2018 12:34:52 -0000
Message-ID: 87e88de2-4b47-4f13-97ee-1b46f9e2e6a7@gulbrandsen.priv.no permalink / raw / eml / mbox 
My numbers say: a considerable majority, but not 90%. Not enough to 
disregard servers that don't support condstore.

Arnt
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From: andris.reinman@gmail.com
To: imap-protocol@localhost
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2018 12:34:52 -0000
Message-ID: E0877B83-681D-4CE2-AA2A-5462116DCEBC@gmail.com permalink / raw / eml / mbox 
Several large e-mail providers do not support CONDSTORE, for example AOL, Mail.ru (large russian provider), QQ (large chinese provider), Outlook.com/Hotmail.com, Yahoo, Yandex (another large russian provider). So you can use it as a nice add-on if available but can not assume that you can always rely on it.

Best regards,
Andris Reinman

On 26.05.2014, at 8:24, David Harris <David.Harris@pmail.gen.nz> wrote:

> I'm just reading through RFC7162 and was wondering if anyone on this list 
> would be willing to give a speculative estimate of the percentage of servers 
> and clients that support CONDSTORE? I'm only looking for a 
> "back-of-the-envelope" estimate here - even something like "more than half" 
> or "less than half" would be useful.
> 
> I'd also like to offer a short, heartfelt thanks to the people out there like 
> Alexey Melnikov and Dave Cridland (representative names only - there are 
> many, many more) who put in a lot of time and effort to come out with helpful 
> RFCs like this. IMAP is complex and in places very arcane, so all assistance 
> is helpful, and I for one appreciate it.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> -- David --
> 
> ------------------ David Harris -+- Pegasus Mail ----------------------
> Box 5451, Dunedin, New Zealand | e-mail: David.Harris@pmail.gen.nz
>           Phone: +64 3 453-6880 | Fax: +64 3 453-6612
> 
> True life insurance claim:
>   "My car was legally parked as it backed into the other vehicle."
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Imap-protocol mailing list
> Imap-protocol@u.washington.edu
> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/imap-protocol
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From: mg@MIT.EDU
To: imap-protocol@localhost
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2018 12:34:52 -0000
Message-ID: CAO3aFYsurRdgn7GeAPHACFJoUxULf9ve=KwqgcLXH86Cc2gpOg@mail.gmail.com permalink / raw / eml / mbox 
Can you share an actual breakdown?

Is this 90% of providers or 90% of estimated users' accounts?



On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Andris Reinman
<andris.reinman@gmail.com>wrote:

> Several large e-mail providers do not support CONDSTORE, for example AOL,
> Mail.ru (large russian provider), QQ (large chinese provider),
> Outlook.com/Hotmail.com, Yahoo, Yandex (another large russian provider). So
> you can use it as a nice add-on if available but can not assume that you
> can always rely on it.
>
> Best regards,
> Andris Reinman
>
> On 26.05.2014, at 8:24, David Harris <David.Harris@pmail.gen.nz> wrote:
>
> > I'm just reading through RFC7162 and was wondering if anyone on this list
> > would be willing to give a speculative estimate of the percentage of
> servers
> > and clients that support CONDSTORE? I'm only looking for a
> > "back-of-the-envelope" estimate here - even something like "more than
> half"
> > or "less than half" would be useful.
> >
> > I'd also like to offer a short, heartfelt thanks to the people out there
> like
> > Alexey Melnikov and Dave Cridland (representative names only - there are
> > many, many more) who put in a lot of time and effort to come out with
> helpful
> > RFCs like this. IMAP is complex and in places very arcane, so all
> assistance
> > is helpful, and I for one appreciate it.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > -- David --
> >
> > ------------------ David Harris -+- Pegasus Mail ----------------------
> > Box 5451, Dunedin, New Zealand | e-mail: David.Harris@pmail.gen.nz
> >           Phone: +64 3 453-6880 | Fax: +64 3 453-6612
> >
> > True life insurance claim:
> >   "My car was legally parked as it backed into the other vehicle."
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Imap-protocol mailing list
> > Imap-protocol@u.washington.edu
> > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/imap-protocol
>
> _______________________________________________
> Imap-protocol mailing list
> Imap-protocol@u.washington.edu
> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/imap-protocol
>
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From: blong@google.com
To: imap-protocol@localhost
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2018 12:34:52 -0000
Message-ID: CABa8R6v2vr8---bm9-BXntbfwAMfiHqXx6Bv159+qSxBCLRzUg@mail.gmail.com permalink / raw / eml / mbox 
I think that would highly depend on what your client base looks like.

Clients include: iOS Mail, MacOS Mail, Android Email (ie, the AOSP email
client), Thunderbird, eM Client, Blackberry 10, MailMate, Trojita.  Its
over 90% of our users using a CONDSTORE capable client.  We don't offer
QRESYNC yet, so I can't speak to that.

Brandon


On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Michael Grinich <mg@mit.edu> wrote:

> Can you share an actual breakdown?
>
> Is this 90% of providers or 90% of estimated users' accounts?
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Andris Reinman <andris.reinman@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Several large e-mail providers do not support CONDSTORE, for example AOL,
>> Mail.ru (large russian provider), QQ (large chinese provider),
>> Outlook.com/Hotmail.com, Yahoo, Yandex (another large russian provider). So
>> you can use it as a nice add-on if available but can not assume that you
>> can always rely on it.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Andris Reinman
>>
>> On 26.05.2014, at 8:24, David Harris <David.Harris@pmail.gen.nz> wrote:
>>
>> > I'm just reading through RFC7162 and was wondering if anyone on this
>> list
>> > would be willing to give a speculative estimate of the percentage of
>> servers
>> > and clients that support CONDSTORE? I'm only looking for a
>> > "back-of-the-envelope" estimate here - even something like "more than
>> half"
>> > or "less than half" would be useful.
>> >
>> > I'd also like to offer a short, heartfelt thanks to the people out
>> there like
>> > Alexey Melnikov and Dave Cridland (representative names only - there are
>> > many, many more) who put in a lot of time and effort to come out with
>> helpful
>> > RFCs like this. IMAP is complex and in places very arcane, so all
>> assistance
>> > is helpful, and I for one appreciate it.
>> >
>> > Cheers!
>> >
>> > -- David --
>> >
>> > ------------------ David Harris -+- Pegasus Mail ----------------------
>> > Box 5451, Dunedin, New Zealand | e-mail: David.Harris@pmail.gen.nz
>> >           Phone: +64 3 453-6880 | Fax: +64 3 453-6612
>> >
>> > True life insurance claim:
>> >   "My car was legally parked as it backed into the other vehicle."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Imap-protocol mailing list
>> > Imap-protocol@u.washington.edu
>> > http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/imap-protocol
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Imap-protocol mailing list
>> Imap-protocol@u.washington.edu
>> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/imap-protocol
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Imap-protocol mailing list
> Imap-protocol@u.washington.edu
> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/imap-protocol
>
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